Wednesday, March 7, 2007

Bishops Operate Zionist Safety Valve

EDITOR'S NOTE: Already "truth seekers" have seized upon this article as evidence that Rome represents some kind of opposition to Zionism. This is laughable. The German Bishops are only briefly opening the safety valve and releasing some of the pressure which has built up in Europe due to ever increasing awareness of, and anger with Zionist warmongering and brutality.

What criticism do the Bishops level here that wasn't true decades before the Vatican acknowledged and opened relations with "Israel"? Compare this with the position of Pope St. Pius X who refused to acknowledge the Zionist movement before "Israel's" atrocities even began. Pope St. Pius X's rejection of Zionism was theological. He said that he could not state otherwise than to reject Zionism. This needs to be understood.

Note that in the midst of all the "harsh criticism" by the German Bishops one of the fundamental tenets of Zionist propaganda is upheld: "'Israel's' right to exist." But Pope St. Pius X stated that Catholics could never sanction the Zionist movement. Which is the true Catholic position?

These German Bishops are no opposition to Zionism and their criticisms won't make a bit of difference. Catholics need to begin to understand that the notion that the anti-Biblical, warmongering, racial supremacist little state that calls itself "Israel" "has a right to exist" on someone else's land is absolutely contrary to Catholicism.

Bishops equate Israel's actions to Holocaust

Hours after historic visit to Jerusalem holocaust museum, group of German bishops tour Palestinian Authority, say Israel behaving like Nazis

Eldad Beck Published: 03.06.07, 10:24 / Israel News

BERLIN - "This morning we saw pictures of the Warsaw ghetto at Yad Vashem and this evening we are going to the Ramallah ghetto." Several hours earlier on Sunday you probably would not have heard German Bishop Gregor Maria Franz Hanke choose such a divisive analogy.

But then on Sunday morning he was still in Israel and the rhetoric was considerably different than the one elected by the German Bishops' Conference once they crossed over in to the Palestinian Authority on Sunday evening.
The visit of 27 members of the German Bishops' Conference to Israel included a historic first-time visit to the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial museum in Jerusalem as well as guided tours of sites holy to Christianity and meetings with Christian congregations in Israel and in the Palestinian Authority.

During their time in Israel the bishops uniformly made moderate and balanced statements, but once in the PA they provided German reporters accompanying them with a plethora of harsh proclamations against Israel. Their criticism received widespread coverage in the German media on Monday.

While crossing one of the checkpoints into East Jerusalem the Archbishop of Cologne, Cardinal Joachim Meisner, told reporters: "This is something that is done to animals, not people." Meisner, a resident of eastern Germany, said that the fence reminded him of the Berlin Wall and that in his lifetime he did not believe he would see such a thing again. As the Berlin Wall was brought down so will this wall be brought down, he said, adding that the fence served no purpose.

The delegation's visit to Ramallah took place several hours after their visit to Yad Vashem and several of the bishops chose to equate the situation in the Palestinian Authority with the Holocaust.

"Cages in the image of ghettos," said the Bishop of Augsburg of the territories. Augsburg was once under the spiritual leadership of Pope Benedict XVI, who was Archbishop of the Munich-Freising Archdiocese and his brother Monsignor Georg Ratzinger still resides there.

"Israel has, of course, the right to exist, but this right cannot be realized in such a brutal manner," said Bishop Hanke, who later stated that he intends to amend this year's Easter message to German churches so as to include the delegation's political impressions from their visit to the territories and a demand to change the situation.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3373013,00.html

56 comments:

Itzchak said...

Hi guys:
I've been away travelling/teaching, and have not been around to follow the latest revelations of scintillating intellectual insights that this blog offers.
But I did find this example of the racism of the Judaics..

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/08/nyregion/08batmitzvah.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Itzchak said...

Here's the full link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/08/nyregion/08batmitzvah.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Itzchak said...

Oops: and the rest of the link..
you have to cut and paste but it's worth it...Those Judaic racists...


itzvah.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

Maurice Pinay said...

Preventing Judaics from engaging in the liberal practices which were formulated for the destruction of the goyim has always been difficult for the rabbis as your article clearly demonstrates. If the authority of the sanhedrin is established and consolidated, however, I doubt you'd find any "Jewish" lesbian couples with "Jewish" Chinese daughters in the synagogues.

Itzchak said...

"liberal practices which were formulated for the destruction of the goyim "
that's funny....you really think the world, and the Jewish world, revolves around caring about 'destroying goyim'...a psychiatrist would call that an extreme case of paranoia...

And you think a Sanhedrin would have the power to control people to the extent that your bizarre comment implies? Jewish communities , and Jews are autonomous, and quite a free for all of viewpoints, attitudes and actions.

rev'd up said...

"the Jewish world, revolves around caring about 'destroying goyim'...a psychiatrist would call that an extreme case of paranoia."

Of course, the Judaic world revolves around destroying goyim. Anybody in their right mind can see that. Nothing else explains their continued use and promotion of the Talmud.

I'm sure some good Jewish Phychiatrist would love to pump Marice full of thorazine, valium and the like. Then it'd be smooth sailing...nothing but smiles and sunshine.

Odd how any bad press is immediatedly met with a well worded, consise press release from some rabbi, who in essense says, "Ye shall not surely die..."
Dang, those boys are ready for anything, aren't they?

By the way, isn't Meisner (Meissner) a totaly Ashkenazi Jewish name? This clown was responsible for the last World youth day!

Maurice Pinay said...

And you think a Sanhedrin would have the power to control people to the extent that your ... comment implies?

Absolutely. Through subsidiary courts. It would be bizarre to suggest otherwise.

But enough of this sillyness from you. Last week you were arguing that "the Jews" have remained racially isolated throughout the diaspora. Now you're attempting to paint a picture of "the Jews" as a people who have no cares for race whatsoever. You testify against yourself.

Itzchak said...

You misunderstand::"you were arguing that "the Jews" have remained racially isolated throughout the diaspora"...the question was the connection of present day Ashkenazic Jews to their origins in the Middle East.
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"you're attempting to paint a picture of "the Jews" as a people who have no cares for race whatsoever."
Next time you visit Israel you'll see representation of of most 'races' who are all Jews...Also anyone sincere can convert to Judaism and in the modern era people of all races are doing that.

Itzchak said...

Hey Mr. Revved Up:
"Of course, the Judaic world revolves around destroying goyim. Anybody in their right mind can see that. Nothing else explains their continued use and promotion of the Talmud."

What this shows is ignorance of the Talmud. When was the last time you learnt any real Talmud?

rev'd up said...

Excuse me, that's "Father Revved Up" if you please.

No individual, in their right mind, would take the time to read all of the banalities contained in the Talmud; yet there are many items that 'pop' out upon the close scrutiny of many eyes. Including this...

http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/america_2.html

And this...

http://www.come-and-hear.com/editor/america_5.html

Or this...

http://www.come-and-hear.com/talmud/babamezia.html

I will admit ignorance of anything GOOD in the Talmud, but with so much indefensible evil why bother with it. It is at best accidental, and at worst subterfuge.

Itzchak said...

Please read this closely
http://www.adl.org/presrele/asus_12/the_talmud.pdf

rev'd up said...

Wow... I'm impressed! The ADL has a nice "Page not found" font.

Maurice Pinay said...

... the question was the connection of present day Ashkenazic Jews to their origins in the Middle East.

And one of your objections, or more accurately, someone else's objection which you cut and pasted, was the laughable claim that the diaspora "Jews" remained genetically isolated.

Next time you visit Israel you'll see representation of of most 'races' who are all Jews...

I'm well aware that today's "Jews" are not an ethnically cohesive "race" as is anyone with eyes to see. I'm also aware of "Jewish" racial conceit which is delusional in light of that fact.

Also anyone sincere can convert to Judaism and in the modern era people of all races are doing that.

And how do "atheist Jews" figure into that equation?

The racism that exists between the Sephardim and Ashkenazi is fierce enough and you're telling me that a black convert to Judaism is going to be happily welcomed into the tribe by all?

Now, I don't doubt for a moment that the rabbis would take an exorbitant amount of cash from a black person confused and lacking in self respect enough to want to convert to Judaism. It's profitable and it's one less obstacle to the tribe to them. But he'd still be cursed in the eyes of the Orthodox due to the racist rabbinic tradition of the Curse of Ham, one of many towering examples of lofty rabbinic "wisdom."

Maurice Pinay said...

Please read this closely
http://www.adl.org/presrele/asus_12/the_talmud.pdf

That's another good one, itzchak!

The horribly misnamed "Anti-Defamation" League of the Judaic Freemasonic B'nai B'rith qualifies as an unbiased source in this matter then?

Pure comedy!

You remember that matter about the ADL getting caught collecting files on American citizens and sending them to the Israeli government? I do.

Itzchak said...

And how do "atheist Jews" figure into that equation?
It doesn't really mean very much.
There are thousands of formely 'atheist Jews' who are serious Torah scholars.
And thousands of others whose passion for social justice, philanthropy, Israel, etc. speaks of a holiness that transcends a philosophical perspective....

"The racism that exists between the Sephardim and Ashkenazi is fierce enough "
-Check out the marriage rates in Israel between Sephardim and Ashkenazim...these identifications are dissolving.
and you're telling me that a black convert to Judaism is going to be happily welcomed into the tribe by all?
I've known about ten black converts in the past thirty years who are thriving in Israel.

Itzchak said...

Here is a fairly balanced article about black converts to Orthodox Judaism....
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/65/story_6556_1.html

Maurice Pinay said...

There are thousands of formely 'atheist Jews' who are serious Torah scholars.
And thousands of others whose passion for social justice, philanthropy, Israel, etc. speaks of a holiness that transcends a philosophical perspective....


It speaks of tribalism. If that's you're idea of holiness, that's your problem.

Check out the marriage rates in Israel between Sephardim and Ashkenazim...

“nisuei ta’arovet” they call it: mixed marriages. They take place among the liberal elements. Not very much among the Orthodox or Hasidim who preserve the racist Judaic traditions.

Maurice Pinay said...

Here is a fairly balanced article about black converts to Orthodox Judaism....
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/65/story_6556_1.html


It's very sad to see a person so confused and lacking in self respect that they would convert to a "religion" which teaches that their skin color is a curse (Babylonian Talmud, tractate 70a, 108b, Midrash Rabbah[Gen. 36;7]) and that they're a demonic race (Zohar I, 73a) and that they have a rank below that of man but slightly above that of an ape (Maimonides, Guide to the Perplexed, University of Chicago Press pg. 618-619).

If they accept that, then accepting the discrimination of their fellow Orthodox "Jews" who are taught the same nonsense is just par for the course.

Very sad.

Itzchak said...

I can see that from your perspective you certainly have alot to be sad about.

rev'd up said...

Itzchak, I'm still waiting for you to fix the link to something b'anal at the "Leo Frank Murder & Necrophilia (then pin it on a schwartzer) Cabal" (aka ADL).

Maurice Pinay said...

I can see that from your perspective you certainly have alot to be sad about.

Racism is detestable. And that's not merely a matter of opinion as you suggest in typical relativist, Kabbalist fashion.

Itzchak said...

It must be hard to watch your world crumbling, the 'Judaics' triumphant everywhere...the Catholic Church becoming more irrelevant daily...
and all you can do is rail against it on a website that seems to be read only by people who are of very similar view comforting each other in their isolation and self-righteousness...
that's what I meant by sad..

Maurice Pinay said...

... that's what I meant by sad..

If you really believed what you state you wouldn't invest so much of your precious time here.

Itzchak said...

That's a good point...and I've thought about it (and my friends agree with you). But I'm fascinated by the obsession and the commitment to knowing about Judaismn (albeit in a very distorted way) that you guys have. You spent more time focused on Judaism than most Jews.
As well as being a writer, I'm a public speaker and sometimes I'm asked to speak about religion and contemporary events. And lately I must say that the darkness that you guys are into has given me much fodder for comment.
I'm a child of Holocaust survivors, so I do like to keep in touch with the 'enemy'.
And like I say, I'm still amazed by the energy given to some Jew (who Saul never met) and the mythology built around him.
When I do interfaith stuff, (and I've taught Biblical Hebrew in
Christian Seminaries) I'm sometimes asked what I think about Jesus.
I'm quite polite and don't tell them what I really think. What I usually say is that 'I'm jealous, there'a rabbi who really made it big'.

Cambrensis said...

" ... the 'Judaics' triumphant everywhere...the Catholic Church becoming more irrelevant daily..."

It ain't over 'til it's over.

"If you really believed what you state you wouldn't invest so much of your precious time here."

He's got a point, Itzchak. If it's anti-semites you wish to bait why pick on traditional Catholics who are totally marginalised & ineffectual as you rightly point out? The liberals aren't going to let them attain to any influence and pagan nazis despise them. When it comes to enemies you should be worrying about Muslims & heathen fanatics. So why the obsession with Christians?

Cambrensis said...

"I'm sometimes asked what I think about Jesus.
I'm quite polite and don't tell them what I really think."

Politeness doesn't seem to count for much now - so what do you really think?

Itzchak said...

As to your earlier point of which enemies I should be interested in, what originally drew me to this was the fascination/obsession that you guys have with Jews and Rabbis. You imagine us at war, while in truth we don't really care about you as long as you leave us alone.
The irony of Michael Hoffman selling a complete Steinsaltz Talmud to raise money for his 'work' struck me.
I suspect you may be reincarnations of the ten tribes still warring over jurisdiction.
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As to what I think about Jesus.
I don't really think he existed in the way you do. It's amazing to me that Saul never met him, so it's a religion created by Saul making a whole myth.
I know that the Creator does not impregnate Jewish (or any other) women. And believing that some guy died for my sins is the most ridiculous way to redemption that I could think of. What I can't believe is how many people in the world have been duped and oppressed by this sick mythology.

Maurice Pinay said...

"As to what I think about Jesus. I don't really think he existed in the way you do."

Thanks for sharing that, but I'm well aware of what your gutter "religion" teaches about Christ.

What I can't believe is how many people in the world have been duped and oppressed by this sick mythology.

I find it fascinating that people believe in Sandalphon, Metatron, transmigration, pantheism, the kosher racket, eruvs, sabbath prohibitions against lifting, metzizah bi peh, halacha governing menstruation, the extra "Jewish" soul, racial supremacy, double standards and a host of other absurdities, superstitions, myths and sick practices which are fundamental to Judaism.

Cambrensis said...

I can't figure it out, Itzchak.

You say "we don't really care about you as long as you leave us alone", yet you seem to enjoy going out of your way to taunt traditional Catholics whose "anti-semitism" (if that's what it is) poses zero threat to Jewry, unlike some of the other varieties on offer in the world today.

Conversely, you say Christians "have been duped and oppressed" by a "sick mythology", yet given the opportunity to address an audience of Christian seminarians you don't urge them to wise up and throw off this oppressive yoke - instead you make vague flattering remarks which leave them thinking you have a degree of respect for their beliefs. Why not tell them what you really think & lead them into the light instead of leaving them floundering in darkness? ( - Particularly as the Christians at these interfaith events are presumably the modern type who are wholly sympathetic to Judaism and would be horrified & embarrassed by the medieval beliefs of the 'trads'...)

rev'd up said...

Insult the stupid goy seminarians and the money dries up. That means no more highly desirable jewels and gold at deeply discounted prices!

Itzchak said...

"Thanks for sharing that, but I'm well aware of what your gutter "religion" teaches about Christ."

Here's the best analysis I've seen of the actual passages of Talmud that are supposedly about jesus.

http://www.angelfire.com/mt/talmud/jesusnarr.html

Maurice Pinay said...

Here's the best analysis I've seen of the actual passages of Talmud that are supposedly about jesus.

Nonsense.

For serious researchers I recommend Princeton University professor of Judaic Studies, Peter Schafer's recently published Jesus in the Talmud. Even if I don't agree with all of his theories, he does represent the texts accurately.

http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Talmud-Peter-Schafer/dp/0691129266

Also note the essay written by Steven Bayme of the American Jewish Committee in which he plainly states not only that Christ is mentioned in the Talmud, but that the rabbis take full responsibility for His execution, completely absolving the Romans of involvement.

http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2007/02/judaic-propensity-to-have-it-both-ways_25.html

And it seems that I've gotten the AJC's attention. Shortly after I posted the link to an archived copy of Steven Bayme's AJC article on Jesus in the Talmud, they've blocked the webpage. Not to worry. I copied the page long ago.

Itzchak said...

In this lucid, richly detailed, and accessible book, Peter Schäfer examines how the rabbis of the Talmud read, understood, and used the New Testament Jesus narrative to assert, ultimately, Judaism's superiority over Christianity.

Thanks for the reference to that book by Shafer. I look forward to reading it. This is from the blurb on amazon about it. It sounds good to me:
"The Talmudic stories make fun of Jesus' birth from a virgin, fervently contest his claim to be the Messiah and Son of God, and maintain that he was rightfully executed as a blasphemer and idolater. They subvert the Christian idea of Jesus' resurrection and insist he got the punishment he deserved in hell--and that a similar fate awaits his followers."

Cambrensis said...

"Insult the stupid goy seminarians and the money dries up."

I'm sure Itzchak isn't driven by base motives though I daresay an excessive degree of frankness & honesty by either side would dismay the apparatchiks of the ecumenical movement. Quite apart from the financial implications there would be considerable psychological trauma.

Itzchak said...

They were very sweet kids and I was hired to teach them Biblical Hebrew and not to challenge them about their theology.

Cambrensis said...

Fair enough, I just can't help feeling if someone asks a straight question ("What do you think of Jesus?") it should be possible to give an honest answer without being either evasive or a tactless brute.

Catholics' fascination with Jews & rabbis is because we all know in our heart of hearts that phenomena like atheism, communism, Satanism, Islam, masonry etc, however powerful they might seem at any time, will in the end prove to have been a sideshow. They will all disappear, the Jews won't.

Itzchak said...

How true....
neither will the Torah and Judaism...

Itzchak said...

"If the statistics are right, the Jews constitute but one per cent of the human race. It suggests a nebulous dim puff of star dust lost in the blaze of the Milky Way. Properly the Jew ought hardly to be heard of; but he is heard of, has always been heard of.

He is as prominent on the planet as any other people, and his commercial importance is extravagantly out of proportion to the smallness of his bulk. His contributions to the world's list of great names in literature, science, art, music, finance, medicine, and abstruse learning are also away out of proportion to the weakness of his numbers. He has made a marvelous fight in this world, in all the ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it. The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished. The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality?"

Source: Mark Twain

Cambrensis said...

>>neither will the Torah<<

Nor the Gospel: "Heaven and earth shall pass, but my words shall not pass."

>>and Judaism...<<

"... upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it."

There can be only one . . .

Cambrensis said...

"There is not, and there never was on this earth, a work of human policy so well deserving of examination as the Roman Catholic Church. The history of that Church joins together the two great ages of human civilisation. No other institution is left standing which carries the mind back to the times when the smoke of sacrifice rose from the Pantheon, and when camelopards and tigers bounded in the Flavian amphitheatre. The proudest royal houses are but of yesterday, when compared with the line of the Supreme Pontiffs. That line we trace back in an unbroken series, from the Pope who crowned Napoleon in the nineteenth century to the Pope who crowned Pepin in the eighth; and far beyond the time of Pepin the august dynasty extends, till it is lost in the twilight of fable. The republic of Venice came next in antiquity. But the republic of Venice was modern when compared to the Papacy; and the republic of Venice is gone, and the Papacy remains. The Papacy remains, not in decay, not a mere antique, but full of life and youthful vigour. The Catholic Church is still sending forth to the farthest ends of the world missionaries as zealous as those who landed in Kent with Augustin, and still confronting hostile kings with the same spirit with which she confronted Attila. The number of her children is greater than in any former age. Her acquisitions in the New World have more than compensated for what she has lost in the Old. Her spiritual ascendency extends over the vast countries which lie between the plains of the Missouri and Cape Horn, countries which, a century hence, may not improbably contain a population as large as that which now inhabits Europe. The members of her communion are certainly not fewer than a hundred and fifty millions; and it will be difficult to show that all other Christian sects united amount to a hundred and twenty millions. Nor do we see any sign which indicates that the term of her long dominion is approaching. She saw the commencement of all the governments and of all the ecclesiastical establishments that now exist in the world; and we feel no assurance that she is not destined to see the end of them all. She was great and respected before the Saxon had set foot on Britain, before the Frank had passed the Rhine, when Grecian eloquence still flourished in Antioch, when idols were still worshipped in the temple of Mecca. And she may still exist in undiminished vigour when some traveller from New Zealand shall, in the midst of a vast solitude, take his stand on a broken arch of London Bridge to sketch the ruins of St. Paul's."

Source: Macaulay

Itzchak said...

"There can be only one . . ."
I'm not sure what you mean here,,please clarify. Thanks.

Cambrensis said...

If Judaism is correct and the messianic prophecies are fulfilled as you say - with no possibility of Antichrist imposture - then Christianity will no longer be credible.

If Christianity is true and Jesus Christ comes again in glory to judge the living and the dead - then Judaism will no longer be tenable.

Itzchak said...

I see.....
Well, obviously you know where I stand with this...
What do you think a completely neutral objective observer would conclude if they were presented the two possibilities with current events (the return to Israel, renaissance of Judaism, etc. and whatever the Christian side might present) as the evidence?

Cambrensis said...

It's problematic because current events fit both scenarios equally well - triumphant Jewry & prostrate Christendom could be a sign that God has finally decided to lower the boom on the distorted false religion of Jesus prior to the messianic reign of Israel.

Or it could be a sign of the imminent arrival of the anti-Messiah, the Church's final Passion & the Second Coming.

Then again, our neutral observer might decide the power of the Jews is more precarious than it looks and conclude we're a way off either scenario.

(For what it's worth, one strand of Catholic prophecy foresees the coming of a mighty King who, working in tandem with a saintly Pope, will purify the Church, crush Islam, restore Christendom, convert many Jews & usher in a final period of peace which will then be ended by the rise of the Antichist/Second Coming of Christ. If this tradition is true, we can expect things to get better before they get worse for the last time ...)

Let's see how current events pan out. At the moment it's New Order of the Ages vs Islam. Place your bets . . .

rev'd up said...

The only "neutral observer" I know of would have to be a cadvaver.

Israel has only one hope of establishing and maintaining domination and that is through the barrel of a gun. What kind of kingdom is that? Is it fair to say that to be a Zionist is to be a murderer? If so, I can't imagine God being all too cozy with the likes of them.

Itzchak said...

"maintaining domination and that is through the barrel of a gun"

It worked for one of the earier Zionists, King David.

rev'd up said...

David a Zionist?!? According to the Bible, the word "Jew" wasn't even used during his time. It's not fair to talk about David like that--he's not here to avenge such slander.

Itzchak said...

earlier

Itzchak said...

The 'official' word
for Jewish is Yehudim (found in that form in the Scroll of Esther). It comes from Yehuda, the tribe that King David was from.

rev'd up said...

Explicit mention of the word "Jew/Yehuda" to refer to a sect of Israelies doesn't occur in the Scriptures until the 9th c. B.C. David died around a century before that. The word "Jew" was originally used to denote two tribes, Judah and Benjamin.

Itzchak said...

Which was the tribe that David came from and therefore.....

Itzchak said...

Just in this case, this is too complicated...let me be explicit...
Judah is the English word for Yehuda.

Itzchak said...

"Jew/Yehuda"
another small clarification...
Yehuda is the name of the tribe, Judah.
Yehudi is the Hebrew word meaning 'of the tribe of Judah' and expanded to mean Jew.

rev'd up said...

This is the same kind of back-engineering that would make Abraham, Noah and Adam "Jews." Sure, David is of the tribe of Judah but that doesn't make him a "Jew" much less a "Zionist." Besides, David's raison d'etre wasn't exterminating Middle-Easterners as Zionists do today.

Itzchak said...

The covenant of the Children of Israel began with Abraham...

To call King David someone of the tribe of Yehuda a Yehudi and see he wasn't Jewish is where you guys exhibit your wilful stupidity.

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David's raison d'etre wasn't exterminating Middle-Easterners as Zionists do today.
-You obviously don't know anything about exterminating...
and you know less about what King David did to establish his kingdom.

Itzchak said...

I meant to type 'say he wasn't Jewish'...the word Jewish came from being of the tribe of Judah...
Don't be dense...