Saturday, May 12, 2007

Primary Consideration for Sainthood: Were They Good For "The Jews"

Abe Foxman sez:

"While we understand that the process of sainthood is an internal matter for the Church, the issue of what Pius XII did or did not do to help save Jews during the Holocaust is a profound question that must be resolved first for the sake of the Jewish-Catholic relationship."

http://www.adl.org/PresRele/VaticanJewish_96/5048_96.htm



In essence, Foxman is saying that he realizes that the process of sainthood is an internal matter for the Church, but he's making it his business anyway. And his business is framing everything under the sun in the context of how it serves "The Jews." This is the benefit yielded from decades of Catholic-Judaic dialog with psychopaths such as Foxman--Catholic saints are now judged primarily upon the criteria of how good they were for "The Jews." "Saint" Escriva: good; Saint Simon of Trent: bad. No reciprocal revision of Judaic hagiography is taking place nor is it expected to. This is what Foxman threatens is at stake? He can keep it.

Could you imagine the rabbis admitting to, and making amends for, the genocidal racism of their great saint, Rabbi Simon ben Yohai and his tenet, "even the best of the Gentiles should be killed"? But here is Foxman telling us that Pius XII is not worthy of sainthood because he didn't do enough to stop an imaginary "genocide" of "The Jews."

Pius XII certainly did take actions to relieve Judaic persons of the persecutions that truly were taking place. It could be said that he did as least as much for Judaics as he did for Christians who were being slaughtered and starved to death in Russia and the Ukraine prior to and during WWII, and in Europe during and after the war. But Christian casualties don't concern Mr. Foxman. They're not "Jews." And of course, probing too deeply into that matter could reveal the ugly fact that there are many "Jews" to be blamed for those Christian casualties. Better to keep the heat on the Catholics, Foxman reckons.

But that's not the way I see it. I figure, if Foxman has set the standard for Christian sainthood based upon how good the candidate was for "The Jews" during WWII, then that standard is at least as fair a gauge to judge his fellow Zionist power brokers by. So then, the question must be asked, what heroic actions were taking place on the part of Zionist leadership during WWII for people of Judaic background? I seem to recall that many of them were cooperating with Nazi leadership and that they didn't care much to stop the Nazi deportation program because it served their purpose--namely, moving "The Jews" from Europe to Palestine to set up a "Jewish" state. This claim may seem incredible to some but it's well documented:

http://www.amazon.com/51-Documents-Zionist-Collaboration-Nazis/dp/1569802351

The truth is that Foxman himself and his ilk aren't very good for Judaic persons, not in their intent, and certainly not in the association they create between their insane chutzpah and "Jewishness."

Catholics should know, however, that this slander campaign against Pius XII did not begin with Abe Foxman. It originates from one who is on the fast track to kosher sainthood:

New research reveals rare criticism from within the Vatican of Holocaust-era pope Pius XII for his silence in the face of the destruction of European Jewry ...

Prof. Dina Porat, who headed the Project for the Study of Anti-Semitism at Tel Aviv University, centered her research on criticism of Pius XII from the Papal Nuncio Angelo Giuseppe Roncalli, who 15 years later became Pope John XXIII. (Amiram Barkat, Haaretz, 01/12/2006)

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/794985.html

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

From www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com

John XXIII revealed that he was a Jew?

MHFM: As we said, from time to time we will be posting just a few of the many new quotes and points that are found in our new book, even in those sections where some of the information has been covered on our DVDs, such as on the heresies of Benedict XVI. (There are, of course, many new sections in the book which we have never covered before.) The short analysis below is something that is new to the section on John XXIII. It concerns John XXIII’s oft-quoted and very mysterious statement to the Jews: “I am Joseph your brother.” We were, like so many others, always quite puzzled about what this strange statement to Jews by John XXIII meant. We believe that the points below shed light on its meaning. What we want to emphasize is that there is no doubt that John XXIII said this to Jews. In the book, we cite as our source for this statement a document that was published by the American “bishops.” John XXIII’s statement to the Jews, “I am Joseph, your brother,” is so well known and well documented that, in a discussion of Vatican II and post-Vatican II new relationships with Jews, one of the most prominent things mentioned is this mysterious statement by John XXIII.

JOHN XXIII REVEALED THAT HE WAS A JEW?

John XXIII once greeted some Jewish visitors with the words, "I am Joseph, your brother."[2] Even though this very mysterious statement of John XXIII to Jews has been quoted frequently, the significance has not yet been explained. We believe there is a good explanation of its significance: This statement by John XXIII, “I am Joseph, your brother,” is a quotation from Genesis 45:4.

[Genesis 45:4-5- And he said mildly to them: Come nearer to me. And when they were come near him, he said: I am Joseph, your brother, whom you sold into Egypt. Be not afraid, and let it not seem to you a hard case that you sold me into these countries: for God sent me before you into Egypt for your preservation.]

It was made by the patriarch Joseph, the son of Jacob, to his brothers when they came into Egypt during the time of famine. Those familiar with the Biblical account know that Joseph had been sold into slavery by his brothers many years before, but had risen to the highest position in the kingdom of Egypt (even though he wasn’t one of them) because he had successfully interpreted Pharao’s dream. Since he had risen to the highest position in the kingdom of the Egyptians, he was free to dispense the treasures of the kingdom at his pleasure – e.g., to his brothers. He gave plentifully to his brothers at no charge.

When we consider the evidence that John XXIII was a Freemason, that John XXIII began the process of revolution against the Catholic Church at Vatican II, and that John XXIII’s “pontificate” initiated the new revolutionary attitude toward Jews, among other things, the meaning of his statement to the Jews becomes clear. Just as Joseph, who was not one of the Egyptians, found himself entrenched at the very pinnacle of the hierarchy of the Egyptians and revealed this to his brothers with the statement “I am Joseph, your brother,” John XXIII told the Jews that he is “Joseph, your brother” because he was actually a Jewish infiltrator entrenched at the very highest position in the hierarchy of the Christians (or so it appeared). It was John XXIII’s cryptic way of revealing what he really was: a conspiratorial antipope at the service of the Church’s enemies.

rev'd up said...

Good post and very useful comment from "anonymous." I am begining to wonder, based on things I've heard and read, whether it was John XXIII or Pius XII (or perhaps an earlier Pope) that let the wolves amongst the flock?

I can't put my finger on it but there is something mysterious about the Vatican Bank, the Banco Ambrosiano, Clearstream and Jewish organized crime. Is it possible that the Vatican Bank has been a conduit for the laudering of Judaic drug, gambling and prostitution money for decades? And if it has, do its roots go back to Leo XIII or before?

Anonymous said...

I'm also suspicious of pre-Vatican II popes now. It took me years to accept that the See of Peter has been vacant since Vatican II, so I haven't really been open to considering whether or not the pre-Vatican II popes were compromised or not.

However, I have read that Pius XII actually came from an old Jewish family, and he sure did come out harshly against the Nazis. Now, of course, the Nazis were wrong in their approach to the Jewish problem since Hitler, et al, had lost the true faith and had become pagans. They basically became like Jews, in that race became their god and they embraced a Jewish economic model: socialism. Nevertheless, how much did Pius XII do for the Christians of Russia? I haven't read where he vehemently and unambiguously spoke out against their slaughter and named the Jews as their murderers.

Next, Pius XI betrayed the Cristeros at the time of the Mexican Revolution. The Cristeros were on the verge of winning the war and taking back Mexico for the Catholic Faith, when Pius XI ordered them to surrender, after which they were all summarily executed. He also silenced Fr. Charles Coughlin.

Pius X's mother's maiden name was "Sanson" (Samson?). That doesn't sound too Italian to me, but who knows? He condemned "modernism" but did he speak out about the Jews? He rejected Theodore Herzl's request for support for a Jewish state in Palestine, but did he warn the world that the Jews were planning this?

Leo XIII spoke out against Freemasonry in his encyclical (you know the one!), but did he name the Jews who are really the wirepullers behind Freemasonry? Was he the pope who decided to make peace with the French Revolution? Christians can never make peace with Revolution. Now France has a Jewish president and a 5% Mass attendance rate.

They may have been more orthodox in their teaching office, but they did not warn the faithful about the Jews and what they were planning. It started with the French Revolution, but did any pope warn that this was just the first of many Revolutions to come against Catholicism (think Russian Rev.) in the Jewish pursuit of world conquest?

The pre-Vatican II popes may not have committed heresy, but they did not clearly, passionately, and unambiguously warn the world and the faithful that the Jews were on the march to world conquest. We were let down long before Vatican II.

lynda said...

Very telling, Maurice. Very telling. I really like this blog. True grit, real feist and de fide neat.

Abe Foxeman. You could not make this name up. As in: "Go and tell that fox [Herod], "Behold I cast out demons today and perform cures today and tomorrow and the third day, I finish my course." Luke 13:32

One could devote chapters to the chutzpah of Abe and "what heroic actions [exactly?] were taking place on the part of the Zionist leadership during WWII for people of Judaic background?" Chutzpah is defined in Leo Rosten's Yiddish Dictionary thus: "A man who murders his mother and his father and then throws himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan." That is Abe Foxeman.

As for Pope Pius XII and his heroic resistance to the Nazi power. He was commended by Albert Einstein in the Dec. 1940 ed. of Time. "Being a lover of freedom, when the revolution came in Germany, I looked to the universities to defend it, knowing they had always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth; but no, the universities immediately were silenced. Then, I looked to the great editors of the newspapers, whose flaming editorials in days gone by had proclaimed their love of freedom; but they like the universities were silenced in a few short weeks. Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the Church alone had had the courage and the intellectual turth and moral freedom. I am forced to confess that what I had once despised I now praise unreservedly."

Or how about this one from the Grand Rebbe of Jerusalem, Dr. Isaac Herzog, Feb. 29, 1944: "What the Vatican did will be indelibly and eternally engraved in our hearts...Priests and even prelates did things that will forever be an honor to Catholicism. Volumes could be written on the multiform works of Pius XII and the countless priests, religous and laiety who stood with him throughout the world during the war. No hero, in all of history, was more militant, more fought against, none more heroic, than Pius XII in pursuing the works of true charity...on behalf of all the people of God."

These statements are valuable because they are were spoken from the heart before the thought police and the spin doctors of the Zionists could edit them. Thus, they have a ring of historical truth and the veracity of authentic witness.

Now, what were the Zionists doing exactly for the people who identify themselves with the royal tribe of Judah at the time of the Nazi peril? How many contemporary statements of witness, exactly, can they cite from the relevant sources to demonstrate their efforts for the people they say they represent?

Tomcann said...

I have often been puzzled that so many Jews ( Money lenders) escaped to the West but failed to lend money to the alleged six million victms of the holocaust in order that they too might escape ?

John Zebedee said...

ALSO, POPE JOHN PAUL II'S MOTHER WAS APPARENTLY A LITHUANIAN JEW
NAMED EMILY KATZ...THIS STORY HAS
BEEN ALL OVER THE INTERNET FOR AT
LEAST A YEAR...A PERSON CANNOT PICK
HIS PARENTS, AND APPARENTLY WOJTYLA'S MOTHER CONVERTED TO ROMAN
CATHOLICISM & WAS A VERY GOOD WOMAN...ALL THAT MATTERS IS THAT ONE KEEPS CHRIST'S COMMANDMENTS.