Tuesday, July 14, 2009

Expelled SSPX Priest, Fr Abrahamowicz Interviewed

An excerpt:

S.H.: Of your public statements regarding the Holocaust controversy, what caused the most problems? Why?

Fr. A.: My fellow-priests agreed with all that I said in my interview with the Tribuna de Trevise. But no one imagined the media effect it would produce. So it was the very fact of publicly attacking the Jews which made my confreres and superiors tremble and then shook their friendship. Touching the new Messiah, i.e. criticising Zionist policy, is the ultimate lèse-majesté. At present the Vatican is bowing down before the Zionist reign. So the Society, by entering into friendship with Ratzinger’s Vatican ought to sacrifice to the gods. Once the Vatican, by its spokesman Lombardi, had distanced itself from Fr Abrahamowicz, the Society went one better: it expelled its life-member, declaring that the statements made by the expelled priest gravely damaged the Society’s image in the service of the Church. But which church?

S.H.: What about Bishop Williamson? What do you think about what has happened to him?

Fr. A.: Bishop Williamson has not been expelled; he has been dismissed from his position and his observations about the technical aspects of gas chambers were scathingly criticised by his confreres in the priesthood and in the episcopate. He has been reduced to silence by his superior, Mgr Fellay. In order to avoid saying that it is forbidden to touch the new Messiah, the affair has been classified as a “historical question”, falling outside the competence of a bishop. Is that really why he is no longer allowed to exercise his ministry?


Full interview here:

True restoration: Interview with Fr. Florian Abrahamowicz in Paris (English Version)

As I have said before, the policy of Bp. Fellay noted by Fr. Abrahamowicz (in italics above) is remarkable. Bp. Fellay seems to have contrived a compulsory dispensation from speaking against a grave threat to the faith; from doing what priests and bishops are obligated to do. 'The Holocaust' is not a mere historical matter as Bp. Fellay says. It has become a matter of theology and religious observance, as documented HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE, and it threatens our core beliefs at least as much as the theological errors of Vatican II.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thank you for posting this interview. I agree 100% with Fr. Abramowicz.

Laboure

Anonymous said...

I should learn how to spell his name correctly before I go agreeing with him - Fr. Abrahamowicz!

Laboure

HallnOates said...

Again the accusation of Bishop Fellay silencing those who speak in defense of the Catholic faith.

For Bishop Williamson, you'll have to point out of course where His Excellency spoke in defense of the Catholic faith. All I see is him giving his take on what occurred at concentration camps during WWII. I did not however see Bishop Williamson utilize or speak in the same spirit of activism against the dangerous Shoah dogma which this blog speaks. Neither will you see Bishop Williamson speaking in a defense of the faith regarding how the shoah dogma is used to slander the Church and undermine its teachings, doctors, and the redemptive mission of Christ in his Sacrifice on the Cross at Cavalry and establishment of His Holy Church. You'll have to point out where he has spoken like this. I have never read or seen him speak as such. You will not see such words being spoken in his words from Canada 20 years ago or from his Catholic(sic) Herald quotes in March 2008-an event which should have put him on guard for future ambushes against him and the Society. The closest Bishop Williamson ever came to defending the faith was when he said "If Jews are adversaries of Our Lord Jesus Christ - obviously not all of them, but those that are - then I don't like them."(See: http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2008/03/traditionalist-bloggers-turn-tables-on.html and clink the links from there)

Now I don't say that Bishop Williamson wasn't trying to warn or protect the flock against lies that could harm their souls(I do think he was trying to do this), but I do not think overall his comments in themselves regarding what is referred to as the "Holocaust" has risen to a defense of the Catholic faith and definitely has not risen to a defense of the Catholic faith as seen on this blog.

As for Fr. Abrahamowicz, his interview in January just after the lifting of the excommunications was much better than Bishop Williamson, his comments were far better IMO regarding what is referred to as the "Holocaust"; however, I do think that his expulsion sprung from this one isolated January interview but over the course of time where the interview became the final straw of behavior that went against his superior's orders or if they weren't orders per se then at least some sort of superior directive(?). Fr. Abrahamowicz's words in January were far closer to a defense of the faith than Bishop Williamson, though I would say they were more the comments of one giving an objectively honest appraisal of what is referred to as the "Holocaust" than one trying to defend the Catholic faith.

In addition, even if the content of Fr. Abrahamowicz's comments in the January interview rose to the level of defending the Catholic faith, such comments were probably less the cause of his expulsion than his habit of contention with his superiors in the Society.

In conclusion, I am not persuaded that:

the policy of Bp. Fellay noted by Fr. Abrahamowicz (in italics above) is remarkable. Bp. Fellay seems to have contrived a compulsory dispensation from speaking against a grave threat to the faith; from doing what priests and bishops are obligated to do.

is a correct assertion.

Also, Stephen Heiner plays a dangerous game providing a forum for expelled priests from the only organized force fighting to recover again the most renowned Temple in all the world: the visible Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ.(See: II Maccabees 2:23).

It appears that Mr. Heiner has no scruples pedaling(let's be charitable and say inadvertantly pedaling) the propaganda of Coomaraswamy byproducts and reprobates like Dolan, Sanborn, and Cekada.

This recent Fr. Abrahamowicz interview with Stephen Heiner itself springs from a bad decision and a bad spirit.

HallnOates said...

I meant to say:

I do NOT think that his expulsion sprung from this one isolated January interview but over the course of time where the interview became the final straw of behavior that went against his superior's orders or if they weren't orders per se then at least some sort of superior directive(?).

Maurice Pinay said...

Dear HallnOates, I have pointed out on this blog that Bp. Williamson hasn't addressed 'Holocaust' theology specifically on more than one occasion. I once again ask you to stop belaboring the point. To date neither Bp. Williamson or Bp. Fellay have addressed 'Holocaust' theology specifically. But Bp. Fellay is the superior of the society, and the policy of silence on certain "political and historical questions" is his policy (or perhaps Benedict's policy being carried out by him). As the superior of the society and the enforcer of said policy Bp. Fellay should logically be held responsible and to a higher standard than Bp. Williamson who is indefinitely suspended--by Bp. Fellay--from exercising any priestly functions and who is the prime focus of the 'Holocaust' silence policy.

The theory that Fr. Abrahamowicz was expelled directly following his 'Holocaust' interview because he had a history of contention is illogical, and coincidentally, favorable for Bp. Fellay. Clearly, Fr. Abrahamowicz was expelled for the same reason Bp. Williamson was suspended. The message is clear: speak irreverently of 'The Holocaust' and be severely punished. If there are any priests in the society inclined to speak against 'Holocaust' theology, this is little encouragement, no?

Stephen Heiner has given a voice to the only priest I know of to publicly identify 'The Holocaust' as a threat to the faith and for this he should be commended.

Anonymous said...

...Bp. Williamson who is indefinitely suspended--by Bp. Fellay--from exercising any priestly functions....
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He still celebrates Mass. His episcopal ministry seems to have been suspended by Bp.Fellay

Anonymous said...

You should go over to Rorate Caeli and listen to "Jordanes" rant and rail against so-called "Holocaust deniers". It's quite a show.

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Mark said...

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