Friday, October 22, 2010

The Chilean Miner Rescue-Fatima Connection

On the topic of the by-the-numbers job in Chile last week which seemed calculated to bolster the Fatima cult, I have one piece of information that the synchromystics left out. The mining town of Copiapo, Chile where the Oct. 13, 2010 rescue was staged happens to be the location of the earliest modern reporting of a UFO sighting, which in the scheme of things seems fitting. See:



Tony said...


By your use of the term "Fatima Cult", are you downplaying the need for Russia to be Consecrated to the Immaculate Heart of Mary?

Maurice Pinay said...

I downplay private revelation entirely.

Anonymous said...

Finally, someone calling it like it is - the "Fatima cult". I've noticed it myself, and it is a complete turn off.


Dutch Boy said...

The "Fatima Cult" as you term it is not just private revelation since the miracle that accompanied it was stunningly public and the Church has encouraged belief in the Fatima message.

Maurice Pinay said...

These things are of no consequence. Fatima is private revelation.

Attempts to raise Fatima above private revelation is exactly what I have in mind when I speak of a Fatima cult.

Dutch Boy said...

From the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
67 Throughout the ages, there have been so-called "private" revelations, some of which have been recognized by the authority of the Church. They do not belong, however, to the deposit of faith. It is not their role to improve or complete Christ's definitive Revelation, but to help live more fully by it in a certain period of history. GUIDED BY THE MAGISTERIUM OF THE CHURCH [my emphasis], the sensus fidelium knows how to discern and welcome in these revelations whatever constitutes an authentic call of Christ or his saints to the Church.

Maurice Pinay said...

As I was saying, Fatima is private revelation.

Dutch Boy said...

Your replies are non sequiturs. The Church has recognized Fatima as legitimate but our modern churchmen have neglected "an authentic call of Christ or his saints to the Church" as a part of their own modernist betrayal of their obligations as churchmen.

Maurice Pinay said...

Restating my original point to keep it from being lost in noise is not a non-sequitur.

Fatima is private revelation. You have not and cannot say anything to overturn that plain fact.

I'm far more concerned with modern churchmen's betrayal of the public revelation of Scripture and Apostolic Tradition--the foundation of our religion--than some alleged betrayal of a peripheral non-essential.

What could be a more authentic call of Christ than the Gospel? That's the core subject of their betrayal.

Let's get our priorities in order.

Anonymous said...

Sir, THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart. I cannot see that Russia's 'conversion' to the post-Vatican II papacy would (in any way) be a 'blessing' to either Orthodoxy, or the Russian People.

- Fr. John